i did it better than all these other frauds!
| Flag: | South Korea |
| Registered: | December 29, 2021 |
| Last post: | May 9, 2026 at 10:49 AM |
| Posts: | 10584 |
i did it better than all these other frauds!
nah it's not racist to hard filter for national talent. that would mean competitions like the world cup are racist lol
anyway yeah russia is the biggest what-if. i think if CIS didn't get gutted they'd have won a Champions for sure, but you just can't presume without enough to back it up, right?
I think instead of Suy they could just get Jemkin or trexx, his form has not been good recently. Or Rarga. Or f4ngeer. Or vo0kashu.
I mean if you wanna say Rossy and Ban contributed meaningfully to Korea's 3 trophies you can. It'd just be speculative though, because from everything T1 has shown publicly their impact was not lasting at all. It's a lot easier to presume that T1's winning roster and Carpe contributed to their win at Bangkok.
For international placements? I mean I guess? Technically correct? T1 didn't win anything with those players so the best argument you can make is that they were top 3 in their region. Whether that was due to Ban and Rossy specifically is kinda dubious as, you know, Primmie and iZu were on those rosters. I feel like you can make a good counterargument that Sayaplayer and Xeta contributed more to The Guard and C9's international placements than Rossy and Ban and Governor. Especially because C9 and TG didn't get grouped lol
Also it's kinda disingenuous to split up Canada and the us imo, they literally play on the same servers of course you form teams based on ppl u play with regularly.
I mean yeah, they play on the same servers, but Korea specifically searches within their one country playerbase that is dwarfed by probably both CAN and USA playerbases and still won three trophies + top 3 at multiple other internationals. Korea had every option to make multinational rosters like NA/CAN with Chinese/Japanese/SEAsian talent but just chose not to because they believed in their own playerbase, despite it being significantly smaller compared to other regions. I think that deserves respect.
Even then I'd argue we can make a US only team and easily win champs....but that's just a theory....
I doubt easily, but yes I think it's possible. EG did it after all.
As for Russia >= US, there's just nothing backing it up. Russia has only one trophy to their name, yeah theoretically they have the players and maybe the coaches to win more, but historically there's just nothing besides a win in 2021. Maybe 2022 FPX if we're being generous and counting Russia as EU (Zyppan is Swedish and ANGE1 is Ukrainian, outspokenly so).
I still think NA is the best region/subregion to play Valorant. I doubt it's Russia.
He was asked in a interview stream who was the most difficult player to play against in his career and he said Urango in 2025. When he was on FNC he would tell his team to avoid him. Also said Urango is the player who mastered movement the best.
people were saying this during kickoff
Depends on what you define by subregion as Americas subregions can also be Canada/USA/LATAM/BR as well. Like how in Pacific the subregions aren't divided into EA/SEA.
Either way, NA mogging Korea? That's not a take I'm contesting. Obviously NA is the best "region" in the history of Valorant based off placements and titles. But I'm suggesting Korea being arguably the best single country. Idk what's hard to understand here. Maybe you're just insistent on parading the accolades of NA.
Idk what exports took APAC teams to international placements. Ban and Governor on Talon getting grouped at Champs and....?
As for Exa, you were quick to specify Ban as being a homegrown NA talent, but also don't apply the same rules to Exa?
i mean unless you're deliberately being obtuse I specified "country" and last I checked Canada and the USA are two different sovereign entities.
And I seriously doubt that Ban, xccurate, and Rossy were impactful to T1's success at Bangkok lol. With them, they got grouped at Shanghai. Without them, they won Bangkok. Using this logic, every team's success was built off the back of every single player to previously play for the org, which is speculative at best.
he was farming in groups at ascension then fell off immediately while facing SLT and NS
idk if you're baiting or not but neither ban nor xccurate nor rossy were on the t1 roster that won bangkok. every single player and coach on T1 Bangkok, GEN.G Shanghai, and NS Santiago was Korean. EG were full American, but NRG had bonkar and strong from EMEA as coaches and Mada is Canadian, and SEN/OpTic were mixed American/Canadian.
what is with people's obsession with joxjo and valanalysis
to be fair, korea is the only country to win multiple trophies without importing a single player or coach no?
even if he didn't he wouldn't have made it in time. nbd
he just needs to leave drx, same with hyunmin tbh. they will never win a trophy on that team. they went from being the best team in korea and asia as a whole to not winning anything. NS were like 13/14 when DRX was the best team in Asia, they probably weren't even Radiant, now they've climbed through tier 3 to tier 2 to tier 1 and won a trophy before DRX even made a grand final.
honestly cannot fault hyunmin that much, yeah he wasn't taking over but the team as a whole looked so disjointed and hyunmin did get hella impact with the kills he had, like that thrifty on B where he gets the entry with just a sheriff
it's honestly impressive how mako got so many kills despite krx getting outcalled HARD by crws
let's not lie here yong was ass except when he played chamber on lotus. he probably would have won that map vs fs today tho
beyn had more frags but less impact than everyone bar hermes. he lost all the important duels besides that one onto primmie A site, which he whiffed at first. kinda awful performance from him. free1ng also sold that last round by triggering the vyse wall
completely outcalled and outshot on Lotus. BeyN disasterclass but this is what you get when you offrole someone onto IGL. Termi needs to find someone who actually has been IGLing instead of just assuming anyone can become an IGL
yeah i'm not saying monyet is playing well, but it's not like deryeon will be significantly better
brother have you looked at deryeon's duelist stats? monyet has better stats than him on neon jett and raze and deryeon hasn't even played duelist on motiv...
GE DFM/NS T1
the deryeon glaze needs to stop i am sorry he is good but some of you guys are making it like he's the solution to every team
me too. i kinda wish he went to t1 but what can you do
yeah he definitely had a good read on hermes's lurk but if you replay the round hermes basically gave him nothing for a good amount of time, a lot more than usual actually. primmie was holding that flank angle for so long before rotating, and even after rotating he kept checking it. just the presence of mind to be focusing on a potential lurk like that was crazy, i rarely see someone that aware.
because krx are always decent, he'd rather prefer stability than take a risk. he said as much when renewing with them
hermes took his sweet time on that flank, i thought he played it as best as he could and just got caught on a timing, the way primmie was checking flank was crazy. not many players check like him, they tend to gamble after the first or second check. that was impressive to me
like i know primmie gets overglazed but genuinely he is impressive. no doubt about it
yeah but he also won them that swing round on C by catching hermes on the flank
there's a difference between being a streamer and being a full fledged professional
yeah i mean it's not looking good but a man can dream
yeah they look nice and the meta will suit them, but GE winning would be such a cool sight to see
it would be an insane run to qualify to London by beating PRX
that's your problem, using X lmfao that place is awful and just propogates false narratives about gender, race, ethnicity, whatever. genuinely a cesspool of degeneracy.
they're already in gen.g gc are they not
prx should steal hyunmin from drx
bro is definitely allat considering he's topfragging playing flex and IGLing as well
he's got a 1.3 rating on like 4+ different agents this stage
if you brainwash him into thinking every map is Lotus we would have Korean yay
currently rank 2 world rank 1 APAC 3xodus#N3O
he’s duoing with Woohyun, some young ass Korean talent who’s been a ranked demon since last year i think
tbf ivy has probably never had a performance this bad in like the last year minimum
holy shit this guy just has a 40% chance to turn into thanos for a map regardless of who he's playing
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