they just played REALLY bad that game
to put it bluntly they got dragged into the mud and iluri couldn't get a read on the game
-> it felt like it was just firepower vs firepower and EP werent shooting to the level they usually do

Theyve been outplaying every team since then and getting results accordingly

Unironically the main takeaway should be that Stallions are really good individually and that you cant take them lightly, else they will just catch you off guard and upset you.

"alt", meaning Batu is a vlr regular?

Nah I wouldnt worry
T1 teams arent going into these matches with anything specific prepared
Theyre just using it as practice to prepare for the next split

T2 teams got something to prove so youll see a lot more out of them

ULF will be fine ngl

unironically just forget that theres a double elim bracket
treat it like a swiss and just check vlr what the next matchup is gonna be

I had 3 paragraphs trying to convey how it works and I absolutely failed

xms at least does well against t2 players x.x

Brother....
losing is one thing, but looking (SIGNIFICANTLY) worse in terms of both calling AND individuals compared to a t2 team is a tad much

Not much time to fix this many issues... gl to them

vlr wanting Ange1 back is true character development

dont get tilted on behalf of the players lmao

"Fine. I'll do it myself."

Im on the 3rd option that boaster is the greatest of all time

But for aspas he'd just need to start making it further in tournaments on average. Like youve been the most sought after player in americas (heck even the world ngl) for years now. Show results.

And chron needs to now prove that he can consistently preform outside of fnatic.
GMB was a good team, but nowhere near the average results he achieved on fnatic. Keep up the level and prove that you were the x-factor.

theyre def able to punch upwards aim wise
pretty likely that we see them in a couple of the emea stages so gonna be interesting to see how they keep up once other teams start getting better

obviously not ideal, but I dig the idea of just going full firepower then
just leaning fully into the fact that other teams are gonna be slower to grow their systems

OH THEYRE COACHLESS

oml that explains so much xD I was going mad watching them yesterday and just wondering why they were SO puggy
ok but they good af for a coachless team then

Surely scheduling games to start 2 hours later than normal emea (which frequently goes past midnight) is a good idea
Fucking 4:45 am in Dubai

GGs to both teams for making it through this

nah just a divided country
tax on consumer products is rough due to high grocery prices
and politically we've always prioritized the industry over consumers, so theres push back on hard regulation vs the current ongoing efforts to have manufacturers "self regulate"

its pretty divided though so might happen eventually

its a current discussion topic so I am aware that we are slightly more regulated
but since we dont have a sugar tax and no hard regulation its purely self regulated (meaning its not)

its why if you compare our yearly sugar intake to our neighbors like italy and france... well we're looking like the US of europe compared to them
(And nah theres worse countries, but we're WAY too close for a country that normally regulates just about everything... except sugar)

Nah unfortunately German food is very similar in sugar levels (since we have a similar lack of regulation)

fair tbh
and explains why he was still owning everyone^^

Where tf you been?! Ucam needed your energy smh (at least b1sk was still farming)

swagzor remembered that he is in fact better

Def interesting to see how fokus' firepower holds up
That being said Pal is gonna make a statement here and crush them 26-0

+1
stat is just the most useful
linalg has some nice applications in random places, but yea Ive never directly used it outside of uni
And ana.... idek wtf Im meant to do with that shit

All im saying is Scream won 1 out of his first 2 maps
Sadhaak didnt win any

It aint complicated maths people!

its really not that thick of an accent....

offline event

and not sure
production isnt THAT big (decently big, but not like china level) so ig they just wanna keep it simple?

Nah should be a stomp tbh
This Fokus roster isnt even a month old yet so an experienced t1 roster like TH has the advantage in every metric

(Still got enough hopium left though, so ez 15-13 for Fokus)

The distinction is that the former org doesnt get anything out of it

So with this the only one who "profits" from the slot being reallocated is the players
This changes the dynamic between Riot and the Orgs (they dont "own" anything since they never payed for it) and also means that theres no reason for an org to ever transfer the slot voluntarily

You also cant forget that Riot is still the one picking the "whitelisted" orgs from what we know; they are still fully in control of who they let in
(Thats why youll only see current t2 teams get the slot for example)

(Also isnt this NS buying SPG or am I misunderstanding whats going on?)

ngl I feel worse for pal
bro is regretting his life choices rn https://www.vlr.gg/349210/permitta-unicorns-vs-fokus-challengers-league-2024-dach-evolution-split-2-r3/?game=171240&tab=overview

(different roster, but funny af to see our streamer org suddenly make a competent team)

I was not expecting this to be the best map of the day, but dang this is delivering

ggs to cls they played well, but rough for exo

I hope cls invests in some media training so we can at least cheer for them down the line

Imagine signing a roster for the imaginary league

interested to see how it works out; could be scary (and good to see an org stick around ngl)

yea idk, musashi is just the goat

hard carry and igl in one
I pray we get him back to dach cause wtf is this

Idk if this is really an upset given the quality of both rosters, but huge shame to see Ruddy get eliminated "early"

I do hope we see some (if not all tbh) of them end up on various rosters in Polaris
(and maybe finally have Ruddy get into t2 one day xD we need the socials game ffs)

ya told me about it a while back ye
and since he stopped playing for fokus right after I was just waiting for the official announcment

at least I dont gotta swap teams to cheer for in spain now, ucam winning it this year

dangit, they didnt give him back :(

Insane game by ATN
actually a different team to last week

tragic end
fun game regardless and nxt are gonna come back tomorrow for sure

I havent really been... so no?

The only thing I can think off where I "hated" was me saying that I dislike CGN's playstyle going into ascension (because I dont understand how it works). If its because of that then yes I will continue to keep "hating" on CGN when trying to predict an incredibly competitive ascension tourney xD

Not sure if I like initiator lime yet, but dang this is one stacked roster

DACH has the potential to be VERY fun next year with some of these rosters

Hes live atm watchpartying eclipse (https://www.twitch.tv/rudivalorant)
talking bout the game and giving some insight into how he thinks about the game (/how these teams should be playing) for peeps interested

other streams:
https://www.twitch.tv/donjake1
https://www.twitch.tv/shmergan0
https://www.twitch.tv/gimsen9

other streams:
https://www.twitch.tv/rudivalorant
https://www.twitch.tv/hxnter_r

regarding temp:
.... yes thats how tournaments work....
its a temporary roster, what do you expect
temp will get better as their season goes on, but so will g2. Its not champs g2 gozen that played.

regarding nxt:
nxt could have gone 0-9, losing every map 13-0 in t2 and the point that they are one of the staple t3 teams, and as such a team that can compete on the level as them is also a good t3 team, will still stand

In case its been lost along the convo: the take my comment is responding to is "That would actually require them to clear t3 first kekw", pointing out that GC teams are currently t3 teams ("GC teams are t3 and just as capable as the other top t3 teams to win relegation and make it into t2")

placement of nxt really doesnt matter for the point im making of "good gc teams are good t3 teams"
you can see this by just looking at nxt's record in general: they are one of the best t3 teams we have and (as expected in a healthy region) are right on the line of t2

temp12345 also won their next week 13-4 while still playing with their coach (vs the 4th place team) so it also doesnt really matter for the point either

(and not sure how TOG making roster changes going into the split matters since thats just how t3 works; they played their entire premier season with the same core, with the big replacement being karma for "ddd" (dont know who he is, but karma is a well known t2 player in dach))

on twitter (/semi public discords) from other players in the northern europe invite division (a gc team gets byes when the schedule conflicts and they cant take part in premier that round, so thats what created the tension)
People got salty at that initially, but the accusations and shit that was being said about the team kept escalating to the point where it was just aspiring pros intentionally hating on them every chance they got

and just public trackers (https://u.gg/val/leaderboards/premier?page=1&premierZone=eu_dach&premierSeason=6f067888-4acd-15a4-93a4-a2a11ac4d279 + https://www.vlr.gg/event/1948/challengers-league-2024-dach-evolution-split-1/relegation for g2 for example)

g2 gozen went 3-0 in DACH invite div (beating the eventual winner and core of https://www.vlr.gg/team/9042/teamorangegaming week 1)

The top GC teams are t3 and just as capable as the other top t3 teams to win relegation and make it into t2
however it makes no sense for them to actually win it, since theyre already in the more stable league and the scedules are not exactly compatible

(and thats ignoring the fact that t3/t2 players are anything but welcoming to GC teams competing in their leagues... the amount of shit and hate heroics got for competing in invite div last split was genuinely pathetic)

edit of the edit (not that anyones reading this anymore, but for the record since the last edit was complete bs):
g2 did drop out of premier split 2 like I thought initially and did not take part in relegation (despite not dropping a game in premier) - I got confused and looked at the split 1 relegation, in which they lost to nxt 2-1 (who then made it to dach)

Id love if they make different 100% titles for all the different tourney sizes/tiers, ye

(Obviously cant have the 8 team 1st t1 lan of the year reward the same title as champs)

Pickems for masters, ascension and gc-champs would be great ingame to esports engagement

The lack of left handed mice taking off should tell ya all you need to know (best we got is ambidextrous and even those are rare and generally cheap/ergonomic office mice)

You wont learn it from your parents (since no one puts any thought into stuff like that) and youll have to constantly swap the position of keyboard + mouse during the learning process since youll be sharing a pc with a right handed parent

And just too inconvenient to swap nowerdays

Its sorta like how writing was in the past (less violent, but the idea of it). You just had to write with your right hand, who cares if its your dominant one.
So while I do all my activities with my left per default, you were expected to write with your right and thats not worth relearning after youre done with school (/the years teachers stopped giving a shit)

Because theres only so much more you can use for casual discussion

Like I agree its utterly stupid and makes no sense whatsoever, but the amount of resources we have access to is... well pathetic for an esport of this size
Arguments that are purely based on opinions or "eye test" are borderline pointless when it comes to discussion between dedicated fans of different teams/players, especially since most of us are utterly clueless as to what actually goes on in a pro game

With Rib leaving we just lost a major resource too, and that was already for paying customers
Its hard for a Fanbase to develop stat-literacy when when the stats arent available in the first place

gonna depend on how you rate (using players performance on the team vs using how the players look after they left the team as the measurement)

if its on the team then mini/cojo need to be #1
theyve never missed

their worst pickup was enzo, and they had their most dominant regional performance during that time and looked decent international