You should ask yourself would Loud have beaten that Gambit roster?
My answer is no but Acend shouldn't have either but they just played out of their minds that whole tournament after their first game and the Cypher cam incident which also showed how mentally resilient they were during that tournament.
Conclusion I don't fucking know it's way closer than people think

If Liquid signs Cloud and Trexx/Sheydos instead of Jamppi and Soulcas they could possibly rival Fnatic

Man I would pay to see that roster

70/30 in favor of Fnatic and if Loud shows up I'd still say it's 60/40 in favor of Fnatic
But if there is as team that can actually beat Fnatic it's Loud without a doubt
They've got the experience, the firepower, the strats, the map pool to match Fnatic.

NRG getting more than 15 rounds v Fnatic would be an achievement

Team Liquid should break the bank for Cloud

Navi got owned?
The most they lost a map by was 2 rounds.

People saying this to cope with their favorite teams losing lmao

What happened to your Lcq teams at champs?
Yeah they got owned
EMEA easily has the best 4th and 5th seed out of all the regions and we saw that this champions.

People comparing Alfajer and Less based on their lock/in series lmao
Alfajer had just gone back from playing duelist in 2022 to sentinel at lock/in.
What has happened since then?
Alfajer has become the best Sentinel player and a top 2 player in the world next to his buddy Leo in between Lock/in and now

Let's not form an opinion based on something that has happened a few months back
Alfajer and Less are top 2 for sure but let's find out if Less can prove he still is nr. 1 or if Alfa has officially overtaken him this year!

Fnatic have a 80+ percent win chance according to bookmakers which is the same as they give Paper Rex v Fut.
I'm scared but excited let's get this W

Being real Nrg would not get more than 15 rounds against Fnatic

They've all learned from nAts

He's goated for that round

I'm pretty confident Zeta would've easily won Bind without the tech issues
They were running circles around the before the tech pause
But that was no one's fault obviously so it was a fair win for Nrg for sure

Fnatic is still 2 levels ahead of the competition

I thought he was gonna say if Fnatic doesn't win champs which would be somewhat reasonable.

But nah he needs to shut up
Optic/Envy didn't manage to beat an EMEA till the last tournament of 2022 how are they better than Fnatic?

They've been heavily disrespected so count me in

Is this about duelists only?

Derke is the best Jett-Raze player but Fnatic just don't play any other duelists
Pretty sure Alfajer can play every agent on a high level with ease

Russia is #1 in the world the other two not even top 5

Something (Derke could also choose to play for Russia)
Chronicle
Suygetsu/nAts
Shao
Redgar IGL

Trexx, Sheydos, Cloud not even needed

I thought you were asking current Fnatic v Loud 2022 xD
This is a silly question

I think they might replace Zyppan with someone like Trexx maybe

Now that I've got your attention

Giants is clearly the best 4th seed out of the 4 leagues

Navi is far and away the best 5th seed out of the 4 leagues

Prove me wrong

I mean Americas would've send Krü and Lev and both would've gotten owned and don't even bother about Pacific since we all saw what happened with their 4th seed.
Navi is the best 5th seed in the entire world without a single doubt and Giants is the best 4th seed in the entire world as well!

Why not appreciate both?
They're top 2

???
He was fucking amazing today

WIN tonight and we might start believing again

I do believe this roster has the potential top be top 2 since all of their players have the potential to be top 2 in their role

Zeta picking Fracture v Fnatic and Bind v NRG?
They set theirselves up for failure man

Yeah you guys did very well last year (EMEA was not able to send their best team(s) to Iceland tho)
But 2021 was all EMEA
2 teams in top 4 iceland
2 teams in top 4 Berlin
3 teams in top 4 Champions

I've been saying this for time man
EMEA got two teams in top 4 at lock/in
Americas got two teams in top 4 at Tokyo (TL choked that game against Nrg otherwise it would've been 2 EMEA teams in semis at masters as well)

This group is stacked as fuck
I wouldn't be surprised if Prx just stomps everyone tbh but also wouldn't be surprised if they end up not making it out.

I believe in EDG but I also believe that Giants is getting massively underrated
I'm expecting a close series but think EDG will take it

You guys thought NRG could beat Fnatic 💀

Fut were the bookies favorite
Close but they were the favorites

I don't get this narrative of EMEA being worse than Pacific
When have they ever outperformed EMEA?

It's the first game of the tournament so everyone is indeed hyped for it and no matter what you say Group D is by far the most exciting even if the teams might still be considered 'weaker'.

As always
EMEA will end up on top

I think they surprise and beat both T1 and EG and everyone starts panicking that EG won't be able to overcome the 2nd place curse
They lose in playoffs tho

Group A:
Paper Rex: 65%
EDG: 20%
Giants: 10%
Krü: 5%

Group B:
EG: 80%
Fut: 10%
T1: 10%
Fpx: 0%

Group C
Fnatic: 75%
NRG: 20%
Zeta: 5%
BLG: 0%

Group D
Loud: 30%
Team Liquid 30%
Drx: 20%
Navi: 20%

Bro Shao has been insane all year long

Fnatic starting at midnight 😭

Imagine if EMEA only had 5 slots like NA damn the amount of superteams EMEA would have would be insane
NA had to import players (Sacy, Pancada and Ardiis) to fill their teams with good players 💀
At least some of Ascension players will be picked up now (I hope) but I believe NA will do what they're best at which is throwing cash at imports like Aspas

NA has never dominated only Sen has for 1 tournament
Optic fluke is kinda true as well
EMEA 1 seed (Fpx) wasn't allowed to attend that tournament and they went on to win the next masters also Fnatic had to play with 2 substitutes.

For Tokyo people forgot what happened in the TL v NRG game since that should've been a stomp if TL didn't choke it and that's the only difference between NA having 2 teams in top 4 and EMEA having 2 instead.

Are you guys ready to eat your words when EMEA dominates at Champions or are you guys gonna go quiet like you always do?

When EMEA dominates: dead silence till next event
When an EMEA team wins -> haha one team region all their other teams are garbage
When an NA teams wins -> we are the best region in the world even though all of their other teams got knocked out without winning a game

You guys don't understand the meaning of potential I guess 🧐

Shao
Suygetsu
cNed
Zyppan
Who else has that type of star power besides the teams above them?

1. FNATIC
2. PAPER REX
3. LOUD
4. NAVI
5. TEAM LIQUID
6. NRG
7. EG
8. EDG
9. DRX
10. KRÜ
11. GIANTS
12. ZETA
13. FUT
14. T1
15. BLG
16. FPX

Don't need to ask you already know
#alwaysfnatic

This is the one
Only going for FNS beacuse the team needs an IGL
The rest are at least top 3 in their region and in their role.