Champs 23 is up there for me
some others I would put in S tier are lock in, champs 21 and bangkok

The only fact here is that foxy9 played great in the opportunities he got. Do I personally place invy's record above his? yes cause invy did it for longer and on a shit team. Do I think foxy9 would have played at a similar level against boom and prx? also yes

Wasn't SsesS good as well? I dont know why they brought gyen in for him

i'm excited to see Cena win his 17th and I hope demon finn balor rises again and wins the IC title
Any rumors on who could be Randy's opponent?

I just watched the first match then skipped right through to the main event, I'm thinking that was a smart decision kek

Absolute fucking cinema that main event was bonkers

at least they were using their util the 2nd time they played and had some idea on defence, and that yuvi guy looks clean those are the only 2 positives i could see from the games

the sad part is they did okay against the indian teams except for like 2, this is the difference between the average level of VCLSA and SEA

GEA's plans were horrendous, either they weren't ready for this map or their understanding of that comp is diabolical

I get it winning champs and all but this attitude and mentality aren't good enough for a pro team. He's pointing out others like smoggy, chichoo who just own others on LAN, he doesn't. This is definitely not a good look for simon and not sure if other teams would want to sign someone with this attitude.

...for the entire split

uhm, hate to remind you but your own representative had ignored indo talent for a long time while GE gave an opportunity to talented indo players like monyet and blazeking

kellyS has been really good so far and papi was insane in kickoff but in bad form now he'll prob be back soon

but lets assume u wanna make a roster change, who do you remove? For now Patrick seems like an easy option but he's also very talented and we know everyone else is good

I think they need a good head coach

You do have a point, patrick hasn't performed against 2 teams that are playing really well right now and against DFM he was able to create space and get those first kills but overheated a lot.
But, at the same time, the format is ruthless and at some point, you will have to stop making "playing good teams" an excuse and actually start beating good teams. If you can't beat a good team, ur not good ur just mid.

The thing is, there are many teams that are great during scrims but are never able to bring that performance on LAN. Many things like synergy, experience, and confidence play a role in being able to perform on LAN. When you have a youngster like Patrick who just skyrocketed into tier 1 and is taking the pressure to make plays himself (as u pointed out about the comms video) then he'll lose confidence. Someone needs to tell that kid that it's okay to create space and not get kills (he did this very well in the DFM game btw) and it's okay to chill and play together instead of going for individual plays. Patrick is definitely a much better player than what he has been able to show so far and I know he will bring his A game someday even if it is not on GE.

And with the team synergy thing, this roster reminds me of the 2023 roster, which had talented individuals but sometimes lacked confidence in each other (and they were also held back by Rossi).

he keeps peeking because he's the best in the world at shooting his guns and wants to play confidently

Are not the individuals on the team it's
A) they don't seem confident in their plans or in each other they rely a lot on individual plays to get the wins rather than playing together
B) Particularly In this match their micro has looked much worse than before which leads me to believe it's an effect of juvenile being gone

In terms of individuals, I'm most impressed by Kelly and we already knew kristal and udo were good. Papi seems underconfident compared to his more composed and assured self during kickoff and on NAOS. Patrick is playing significantly worse than he did back in PH which could be a result of the pressure of playing on LAN but it's clear he's not feeling comfortable in this team. IMO they need to change Patrick (after stage 1 ig) not because he's bad but because he has so much more potential which he has not been able to show on this team and he needs to figure things out for himself.

The Individuals here are great they need to build some synergy and I think they need a good coach. What do y'all think?

Rossi did well against teams like Geng prx dfm but also he was also the weak link of that team which is why he was hated
Believe it or not he has been their best duelist across 3 seasons and that's saying something lmao

thank you for adding fuck all to this conversation

I am a GE believer but not for this stage or til they get a good coach. It's clear juvenile had a big role to play in their setups and timings (basically micro stuff) cus that has gone to shit now. This roster does have potential to be good with a good coach.

Well, different people try different things, i hold angles a lot in DMs because I feel my angle holding is bad so I try to practice that. Also in my perspective, it just trains you how to deal with these people in an actual match. So when someone is doing something "cringe" I just consider it as practice for a real match and move on.

This velocity roster looks great, I hope they can deliver on the hype skrossi can prove to be the weak link if they do make it to ascension I expect this roster to get to ascension and beat a couple teams at least

This so funny at this point lol
mada: 1.29 rating great stats overall in na t2
primmie: took his team to champs in his first t1 game, 1.22 rating also great overall stats at THE TOP LEVEL IN VAL

mada is a great player but it's just funny to see you're still in denial of how good primmie is kek

aaaaand primmie proceeds to drop 30 to carry his team :3

what about jitboys, he def clears at least 3/5 players on the team u mentioned

APAC seems to be stacked for next year gen, prx, drx, t1 all look good and other teams like tln, dfm, rrq, spg, bme and ge all have potential we haven't seen ts yet and zeta seems to be the only meh team

why have people forgotten LF was like GE's best player for most of 2024 before falling off in stage 2
heck juvenile said he almost made this team and was the closest indian to making this team

"Indian gaming community is full of immature kids + immature adults who act like kids so he yeah" you literally just said this

I think rnt surely have potential to do damage at this event, but these indian teams consistently have the problem of crumbling mentally which we saw quite a bit of when rnt played spg
Even though boom lost they tried to put up a fight which is something that rnt wont do most likely, if they can keep their mental up they have the potential to get a top 4 finish this event

we know this feeling too well :')

As an Indian cricket fan, I am way too used to watch the team i support so desperately choke the finals. This one was still painful, I do hope these talented bunch of players bounce back and eventually win their well deserved masters/champs next year.

Actually, their group stage and early playoffs performance used to be good enough for the top 3. They used to finish 5th-6th as a result of choking.

I remember watching that MITH game. They were 12-9 up on map 3 and then proceeded to lose 12-14. That was so heartbreaking as an Indian fan. Then it happened again against Bleed at Ascension last year when they were 10-8 up on map 3 with all the momentum and lost 10-13. Being a fan of these teams really requires a lot of resilience lmao

GE looked really good today, hope they bring this level of play against good teams

iirc skrossi did a lot better than that against geng xD
https://www.vlr.gg/184484/global-esports-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2023-pacific-league-w6

Because now 100T will probably go on a run and eventually beat geng
ggs pacific

the thing is NRG was already so bad that if FNS and S0m get them to champs they will get a fuck ton of praise and will be seen as the reason why the roster improved and even if things go bad they won't get that much of the blame since it's like they just made the team before split 2 didn't have a lot of time etc.
And it is just really tough to look as bad as they already did

so tl;dr if they do good stonks up massively if they don't stonks mostly unaffected maybe slightly down

Do cite your data sources, my friend

I think we should wait til forsaken plays

hai

use common sense mate, aspas is on top despite playing at the highest level
for soulcas doesnt necessarily mean much

wtf are you saying my friend aspas has been the best player across all valorant esports recently
https://www.vlr.gg/stats

So let me break it down; your only argument is trophies. While trophies are great and only good teams get to touch them, not winning a trophy does not make a team bad automatically. To win a trophy a lot apart from just a team's skills has to go right.

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i think TS and TLN are very close it just comes down to who's better on a particular day

damn brother they must have done something really bad to you for you to hate them that much

It's because hating on GE is the 'socially correct' thing to do. To anyone who says T1 deserve more than GE - GE should have won the series against talon which would've sealed the slot for them. They gave a fight to zeta too. Can you say the same about T1?

Yeah I hope they qualify so they'll get to play prx? and get destroyed which will force them to look at their shit more and try to improve more.

This guy is GOOD