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Registered: May 19, 2023
Last post: May 25, 2024 at 8:18 PM
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I really only know Shao for his initiator gameplay, and for the longest time I thought he was the main initiator for the NAVI/FPX core, but recently I have noticed that he's been playing less and less of sova and for the last few games involving fade for NAVI, Shao has been placed on smokes. Is this the right move for this team? I feel like for a player that is known for being such a strong initiator player, that having him on that role would make more sense right? Or has this always been a thing?

posted 1 month ago

yes, there are only like 10 meta agents, that's 41% of the agent roster dude

his decoy is no where near the same in essence, his tp got changed, his ult got buffed
(Yoru is no longer revealed to enemies
Yoru is able to cast all utility while in Dimensional Drift
Enemies can hear Yoru’s footsteps
Nearsighted is removed
Unequip delay time is increased slightly
Cast delay added when casting Dimensional Drift, preventing the invulnerability frame on cast.)

this is the most an agent has been changed within one patch to this day besides maybe the chamber nerf

posted 1 month ago

Bren is an APAC caster then because he lives in Korea

posted 1 month ago

I don't think you understand the nuances to the game that inhibit the ability of an IGL, and because of that I will try my best to explain why I think your position on FNS' IGLing capability is disingenuous and largely incorrect.
The main points I will specify in my argument is generally inclusive of 4 main things:
-IGL's are NOT always emotional leaders
-The BEST IGL's have always had star talent on their rosters
-IGL's cannot fix underperformance within the game itself
-A team "gelling" is the majority of a coach and management issue

IGL's are not always emotional leaders: I think that you misinterpret what the "leading" aspect of an IGL is; an IGL is meant to call the strats of a game, mid round a game, and instill the structure that their coach or (depending on the IGL) the structure that they want within the game. This is the bare minimum, of course, and while a traditional leader or team captain would generally be the hype man or the "glue guy", this is not always the case and most of the time it isn't.
Take JohnQT and Ange1, both IGL's that are heavily reliant on outside structure that helps them lead their team. JohnQT has Zellsis, Ange1 has/had Ardiis. These players are your people people; the players that "bring everyone on the same page". When a team is built with this structure, it is meant to relieve active duties from the leader and promote stronger team play. Teams like Copenhagen FPX, LA PRX and EG, and Madrid SEN are teams that are known for being well coordinated; being good teams that are reliant on things such as ability combinations and team play throughout the midround in order to win games.
FNS was generally this player for OPTIC afaik, being the centerpiece from which the calling was built off, and while one may believe that this meant that he relied on a lot of firepower from his players, what I believe he actually was strong with was the veteran experience of each player. FNS credits all of the OPTIC members for having provided ample strength within his midrounding and providing strong comms throughout his games; and having their CS experience with them, each of the players were able to play under immense pressure, as shown by their 2022 run.
What an IGL thrives under does not make them lesser of an IGL; Saadhak works best with rookies with strong mechanics; Boaster loves midrounding into or with set plays; Boostio played for team fights across the map; Gambit's Redgar relied heavily on their strong protocols and lurks; and for FNS, it was working off a veteran team and setting them up to be the best players they could be. All of these IGL's lack in something, but they are all considered the best IGL's to touch VALORANT.

The best IGL's have always had star talent on their rosters: I mean this is pretty self explanatory. Every IGL relies on their players being in insane form; Saadhak relied/relies heavily on the fragging of Less, Cauanzin (and previously), Aspas to set up the team for wins, and has shown to want to lean into the strengths of these fraggers in order to make them the best players they can be (putting Aspas on perma jett, putting less on perma viper, putting cauanzin on perma breach). This follows suit to other teams: Boostio and EG, PRX as a whole, Gambit with nAts and Chronicle, Acend with cNed and Zeek, hell even Reykjavik 2021 with TenZ and Sick being insane fraggers. I don't understand how FNS should be knocked from being one of the best because he "need[ed] the firepower of peak yay and peak marved". You could say the same about any of these teams and their star players.

IGL's cannot fix underperformance within the game itself: This is a very specific point that I want to make, but I think it is important. Many people see a player underperforming and can immediately think of many reasons as to WHY a player would be underperforming. Pressure? Maybe they haven't ever touched a LAN before, maybe the team is just underprepared, maybe their supports aren't helping them enough, but an IGL can't focus on that in the middle of the round. Nothing FNS can say, besides putting ardiis in advantageous positions (which he would often start the round in) can change this issue, nor should it be FNS' issue in the first place. The structure of Optic and NRG have long been known by this community: methodical gameplay with strong communication into a strong site hit or read from FNS. This structure is built off of the individual and the information a player can gather within a game, which is something that not a lot of people realize. This clearly did not fit Ardiis' gameplay style, and while that is not his fault, it also is not FNS' fault; and Ardiis not being able to play within their system does not make FNS a bad IGL.

A team "gelling" is mostly a coach and management issue: I also believe this one is pretty straight forward, but a team should not be having issues "gelling" at the end of the season when they had plenty of preparation time. The fact that this is a slight against FNS is crazy to me, because Ardiis had plenty of time on NRG and if their coordination was off, that is what the coach is there for. Team coordination can't be fixed mid game, that is something coaches and staff work on with their players, that is what scrims are meant for; and if they feel Ardiis was not a fit for the team, that is management's issue.

I think calling FNS a bad IGL because he lost to BilliBilli is deceptive at best; that team was falling apart and there was clearly not much that was able to be done by the players or staff. They lost, and yet every player that was on that team is still exceptional and worthy of praise, while also being some of the most decorated players that have touched this game.

posted 1 month ago

Saadhak isn’t a good IGL now because he lost to KRU one time a season ago guys, this is despicable. Can not believe that my IGL can’t manipulate the entire team’s brainwaves to make them work together.

posted 1 month ago

Shut the FUCK up.
Shut the FUCK up.
Shut the FUCK up.

I will not take Jaccob Whiteaker slander.

posted 1 month ago

speaking objectively, God is typically depicted as a male, most likely due to men creating the Bible and previous Abrahamic scriptures.

posted 1 month ago

ok but that's pretty fucking funny lmao

posted 1 month ago

Hydron sucks so he was dropped. The first roster had a LOT of weird shit going on with the players. Rebuilding around UV and Pelican is probably for the best

posted 1 month ago

I agree that 100T has a high potential, and so does NRG, but in the same way, neither were really over SEN at the time (could be in the future and I definitely think they will be contenders for internationals at the rate they’re improving). I will say though that demon1 and Ethan were found scrumming way before the announcement that they joined lol

posted 1 month ago

yeah, at the time 100T had around 2 weeks (-LxT time period) and they also “almost beat SEN”

posted 1 month ago

SAD got pulverized too??
I'm just saying that people have off games and just because she has kills doesn't mean shes "playing for stats"

posted 1 month ago

dont worry, ill be back on september 27...

posted 1 month ago

Zellsis becomes the first person to win 30 majors in a row (sentinels fired the rest of the roster, zellsis 1v5s)

posted 1 month ago

you're fine bro, just ignore him he's just fucking with you for no reason. Have a good day

posted 1 month ago

yeah

posted 1 month ago

literally how, if it bothers you so much just use the correct 1 syllable word homie

posted 1 month ago

How do NRG not check? PRX are also all shooters besides monyet? I mean yeah if you have good players on a team, you’ll win. Not exactly a revelation imo

posted 1 month ago

they have some fun games usually, especially in GC champs

posted 1 month ago

does it not immediately start again after ascension? that was the proposed schedule right?

posted 1 month ago

they're definitely better than DFM and probably BLEED (unless zest magically makes BLEED a good team), their competition is ZETA, TS, Talon, and RRQ, who they have come up short against previously

I trust they can at least put up a good showing

posted 1 month ago

at least T2 will still be playing tho so there are going to be actual games going on

posted 1 month ago

it's been the same game strategically for a decade now

posted 1 month ago

yeah I agree, those are the only players I could really see in the "goat" category tho

posted 1 month ago

Mb with the deathmaker glaze, the games I’ve seen with him he looked pretty good. Maybe coaching would help with that?

That’s fair, but GE is going to be stuck in a cycle of making international teams over and over again hoping it works and it just isn’t tbh. They need to stick with something and make minor changes this year.

posted 1 month ago

Dude I don't know where everyone gets all this information on demon1 from, I watch his streams whenever he actually remembers his password and he never says anything about himself.
Unfortunate for me then, that's interesting I didn't know that. I assume he doesn't have citizenship anymore since he's not counted as an import in the global contract database, which sucks

posted 1 month ago

in his defense, a lot of people that are children of immigrants or moved to the USA at a young age are 50/50 on whether or not they know their parent language

posted 1 month ago

if so, I would probably kick one of nats or suygetsu for an igl since they both fill the same niche, while something and demon1 can flex onto other roles

posted 1 month ago

he doesn't speak the language afaik, at least that's what I remember him saying on stream. Could be tripping

posted 1 month ago

Tarik
BabyJ
Dasnerth
Zombs
Sinatraa

Coach: ShahZam

Knight's Monthly never saw what hit em...

posted 1 month ago

he doesn't, you need an igl so probably redgar since he's 10000% in russian

posted 1 month ago

honestly s0m oxy xeppaa neT flyuh? not sure who else you would put on the team besides s0m oxy and xeppaa, not a lot of options for c9, maybe if they could get FNS

posted 1 month ago

SEN NRG 100T

KC NAVI FUT

GENG RRQ T1

EDG FPX TEC/TE (I dont really care)

posted 1 month ago

lowkey ardiis has been losing mad weight, proud of him for that one

posted 1 month ago

never done that and wasn't planning on it; I only named 4 teams per region lmao

Just wanted to make a fun thread, not that big of a deal

posted 1 month ago

because they have probably the most accomplished NA players in one team and everyone was shooting besides Ethan. I think I misworded it originally, I think their structure was solid but it was malleable and it definitely wasn't adaptable against higher level teams, I think that had they played LOUD on sunset or any of the other higher level teams, they would have also lost that map.

posted 1 month ago

math :,(

posted 1 month ago

don't care fuck the Sumerians

posted 1 month ago

sacy is already the goat imo along with chronicle and saadhak but thats just me

posted 1 month ago

I pulled up 2021-2022 cuz that was what the guy said and you said it was a rare occurrence, my b fam. I think two players dropping 30 is more a testament to how poor NRG's structure was during that game though. You don't see players dropping double 30's anymore because teams have a strong structure around their players, NRG just didn't have that yet while TenZ and Zekken were opportunistic enough to fish for kills

posted 1 month ago

not using my brain when on vlr mr psion, 1.5 rounds to 2 anyways (you're right though, 1.5kpr is still phenomenal)

posted 1 month ago

That's what im saying, he needs to place well in shanghai and look good in seoul for him to make top 10 of anything for me tbh

posted 1 month ago

I disagree, while a lot of those games WERE T2, you have to keep in mind they were against T2 players and he was 24/4 while the score was usually around 13-3. That's around like 2 kills per round pretty much every time he played. I don't think the game against NRG was a life game, I honestly think it was a bad game from sacy and zellsis. I think had NRG let any maps through other than Sunset and Split they had a very big chance of winning the series, but they just looked so uncoordinated on sunset.

posted 1 month ago

well yeah duh, can't really frag out internationally if you haven't been to an international and the last one you were in, your team bombed out. TenZ needs to make Shanghai imo to keep up his appearance as a top 10 player (Ive seen many people put him as a top 10 player but imo this is the only time he has been consistent on and with a team since berlin)

posted 1 month ago

nah asuna_yuuki is a chill guy, I just think it's dumb to say that it was "rare" for TenZ to completely outfrag an entire server

posted 1 month ago

I will reiterate this again, almost none of these games went to OT and for most of them hes like 24/9 , if it went to OT (which it didn't because he was killing everyone in the server), then he most definitely would've been far past 30 kills

posted 1 month ago

yeah because he didn't go into like quadruple OT in every game, these are just outstanding performances (most of the ones that aren't 30 bombs are him being like +14 or him 13-1ing a team and being quadruple positive)

posted 1 month ago
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