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Top 5 rn....unbiased

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#1
RAOSHAB

1)M3C
2)Optic/FPX
3)Loud
4)Zeta/PRX
5)X10/C9

Teams like DRX,TL,Acend,V1 are strong but not consistent
*X10 has replaced G2 based

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Avix
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fair

#3
Cresp
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i think fpx gets its own tier but other than that i think its a p alr list

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TheHardStuckImmortal
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aint no way u kept m3c above optic when they won the most recent tournament

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chloeburbank
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fpx way ahead of M3C looll

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andrewdamf
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?????
drx tl ARE literally better than g2 and c9

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trembolonaRage
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Loud is no better than any NA team (V1, C9, OPC)

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Cresp
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TheHardStuckImmortal [#4]

aint no way u kept m3c above optic when they won the most recent tournament

marved said he still thinks m3c is the best team in the world. they got destroyed in scrims and chet said it too.

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YvngKurry
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I would put Drx up there but other than that I think it’s very accurate!

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100TBoeJiden
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Optic
Loud
PRX
C9
NRG

#11
delusional_sentinels_fan1
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LOL EMEA fans are truly different

#12
DELUSIONAL_JCSTANI_FAN
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top 5
8 teams

#13
delusional_sentinels_fan1
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Cresp [#8]

marved said he still thinks m3c is the best team in the world. they got destroyed in scrims and chet said it too.

Because as we all know scrims = matches

If that were true then moviestar riders would've won everything

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batstew1
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8 teams???

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Lanss
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How you gonna say drx, tL, v1 is inconsistent and then have g2 up there ?
As far as I know g2 is probably the most inconsistent top tier team. Liquid is only one that comes close and that’s also because they keep trying weird shit,a do even then they were only one match away from qualifying.

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Daniveus
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fnatic >>>
Acend >>>

#17
asdfgh
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#13]

Because as we all know scrims = matches

If that were true then moviestar riders would've won everything

marved and chet literally said they are, who do you think you are lol,what makes you think optic are better

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delusional_sentinels_fan1
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asdfgh [#17]

marved and chet literally said they are, who do you think you are lol,what makes you think optic are better

Matches make me think that OpTic is better. Scrims don't mean shit.

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zardinez
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andrewdamf [#6]

?????
drx tl ARE literally better than g2 and c9

Lol

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asdfgh
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#18]

Matches make me think that OpTic is better. Scrims don't mean shit.

yeah man the matches really made you think that i know, good analysis!,gambit is stil strong they didn't just fall off (like sentinels) every team and analyst still considers them top 2 or 1

#21
delusional_sentinels_fan1
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asdfgh [#20]

yeah man the matches really made you think that i know, good analysis!,gambit is stil strong they didn't just fall off (like sentinels) every team and analyst still considers them top 2 or 1

Keep coping

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number_1_poach_fan
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Cresp [#8]

marved said he still thinks m3c is the best team in the world. they got destroyed in scrims and chet said it too.

Bbg destroyed c9 in scrims meaning that they would have won LCQ if they participated

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JettEnjoyer
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Gambit on top

#24
asdfgh
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]

Keep coping

you are the one coping we all know damn well you didn't think shit when you watched the matches and you cant analyze witch team is better from that lmao,if you can please apply for a analyst at sentinels they would really need a guy like you

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number_1_poach_fan [#22]

Bbg destroyed c9 in scrims meaning that they would have won LCQ if they participated

bbg has always been dogshit overrall,are you really comparing fucking built by gamers to gambit lol, you kinda cant make that "they are only scrim demons" argument against gambit

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In place of prx keep drx

#27
asdfgh
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#11]

LOL EMEA fans are truly different

marved and chet are the most passionate emea fans if you ask me,didnt even dare to put fpx or gambit above them,repsect

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number_1_poach_fan
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asdfgh [#25]

bbg has always been dogshit overrall,are you really comparing fucking built by gamers to gambit lol, you kinda cant make that "they are only scrim demons" argument against gambit

Did gambit ever beat sentinels?????

#29
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number_1_poach_fan [#28]

Did gambit ever beat sentinels?????

no?

#30
Stream
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if you put zeta here because of a trash masters where is KRU dude? both overrated af teams which had a fluke run and nothing else

#31
Matrix13e
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Stream [#30]

if you put zeta here because of a trash masters where is KRU dude? both overrated af teams which had a fluke run and nothing else

zeta owns u bozo

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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#18]

Matches make me think that OpTic is better. Scrims don't mean shit.

Scrims != matches but Optic loses to x10 than loud they were able to win cause of rematch and gambit/m3c is basically drx with strong mental

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YvngKurry [#9]

I would put Drx up there but other than that I think it’s very accurate!

they are down cause they cant handle pressure or may be weak mental

#34
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Tl > g2

#35
RAOSHAB
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NothingLikeMe [#26]

In place of prx keep drx

prx above of drx cause of they play with much more fun and strong mental

#36
hellaeleganceyeah
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yeah fpx the team that has never performed in a lan lmao

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GLN321
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how can you mention acend when they just did a whole rebuild

#38
RAOSHAB
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GLN321 [#37]

how can you mention acend when they just did a whole rebuild

but we know what they have achieved ..lets see in next challengers

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top 8 but ok

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hellaeleganceyeah [#36]

yeah fpx the team that has never performed in a lan lmao

also the team that wiped gambit and fnc both teams being champions level teams but ok

#41
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Stream [#30]

if you put zeta here because of a trash masters where is KRU dude? both overrated af teams which had a fluke run and nothing else

wyoa KRU was clearly really good in champions, they were counterstrating and they had really good util. You dont fluke a triple overtime on bind against Gambit. Since their coach left theyve been looking like a really weak team and NagZ is now back to being an average jett instalock who cant frag at all. Now it looks like they dont have any strats and NagZ is really weighing them down so no they shouldnt be on the list cause they lowkey looked like the worst team at masters even worse than FNC with 2 subs and NIP

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JustHunter [#40]

also the team that wiped gambit and fnc both teams being champions level teams but ok

domestic performance doesnt translate to international lan performance. just look at guard for example. 1st seed out of NA and went 0-2 out of iceland. its not a given that fpx will lose in lan, but we havent seen enough from them in lan to put them 2nd.

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chimpy
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That’s 8 teams

#44
thatpower
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you call those teams inconsistent but put g2?

#45
JustHunter
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I dont think Optic are FPX level, this would be my Top 5 (ACTUAL top 5)

1-2) FPX > M3C (right now M3C is dealing with D3FFOs back problems and political issues and they just arent looking too hot so rn FPX higher)
3) FNC (I cant say for sure but their 2 new signings should allow them to have more firepower which is the thing they were lacking before so im quite confident that with a few games and a month of prac theyll be back to stage 1 form or even higher)
4) DRX (I think DRX have really good setplays but they arent adaptable enough which is a bad thing. But I think they shine so much in the set plays that it makes up for that. They just need to fix their mental and Id say they could be in contention to possibly win an international LAN)
5) Optic (yea i put the winners in 5, not because theyre bad or because I think DRX are better than them but because I feel like Optic looks really different from match to match. Sometimes youll see a top 3 team, sometimes youll see a top 20 team, sometimes you wont even see a top anything team. This isnt even from match to match sometimes its even map to map. So I cant confidently say that with their weak map pool and with their fluctuations that they would be in the no.4 place)

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thatpower [#44]

you call those teams inconsistent but put g2?

ikr lol, G2 are just not it. I still think they got an incredibly lucky run in the lower brackets to be able to qual. They played against M3C that were in shambles and then they went against the common Team Throwquid and then went against FNC that were saving strats. ON TOP OF THAT they got first seed because FPX couldnt go. The amount of fortunate happenings are uncanny and i feel like they wouldnt have even made it out of groups. TL are definitely the better team but they have a tendency to start throwing when they get cocky and they just first of all play like theyre throwing and second of all they play with weird ass comps and they start taking crazy risks

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JustHunter [#45]

I dont think Optic are FPX level, this would be my Top 5 (ACTUAL top 5)

1-2) FPX > M3C (right now M3C is dealing with D3FFOs back problems and political issues and they just arent looking too hot so rn FPX higher)
3) FNC (I cant say for sure but their 2 new signings should allow them to have more firepower which is the thing they were lacking before so im quite confident that with a few games and a month of prac theyll be back to stage 1 form or even higher)
4) DRX (I think DRX have really good setplays but they arent adaptable enough which is a bad thing. But I think they shine so much in the set plays that it makes up for that. They just need to fix their mental and Id say they could be in contention to possibly win an international LAN)
5) Optic (yea i put the winners in 5, not because theyre bad or because I think DRX are better than them but because I feel like Optic looks really different from match to match. Sometimes youll see a top 3 team, sometimes youll see a top 20 team, sometimes you wont even see a top anything team. This isnt even from match to match sometimes its even map to map. So I cant confidently say that with their weak map pool and with their fluctuations that they would be in the no.4 place)

so ur sucking emea off makes sense

#48
1mBor3d
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this is 8 teams in the top 5?

#49
RAOSHAB
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JustHunter [#45]

I dont think Optic are FPX level, this would be my Top 5 (ACTUAL top 5)

1-2) FPX > M3C (right now M3C is dealing with D3FFOs back problems and political issues and they just arent looking too hot so rn FPX higher)
3) FNC (I cant say for sure but their 2 new signings should allow them to have more firepower which is the thing they were lacking before so im quite confident that with a few games and a month of prac theyll be back to stage 1 form or even higher)
4) DRX (I think DRX have really good setplays but they arent adaptable enough which is a bad thing. But I think they shine so much in the set plays that it makes up for that. They just need to fix their mental and Id say they could be in contention to possibly win an international LAN)
5) Optic (yea i put the winners in 5, not because theyre bad or because I think DRX are better than them but because I feel like Optic looks really different from match to match. Sometimes youll see a top 3 team, sometimes youll see a top 20 team, sometimes you wont even see a top anything team. This isnt even from match to match sometimes its even map to map. So I cant confidently say that with their weak map pool and with their fluctuations that they would be in the no.4 place)

i put fpx in option with optic who knows maybe they could end up like guard...
and for fnc they will need some time they are in no position for top 5 as of now..
you cant put DRX without even mentioning loud and zeta

#50
RAOSHAB
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but make sense>

#51
jussmonster
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fpx
optic
m3c
loud
top 5 is a throw up but I feel confident about this list

#52
RAOSHAB
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JustHunter [#46]

ikr lol, G2 are just not it. I still think they got an incredibly lucky run in the lower brackets to be able to qual. They played against M3C that were in shambles and then they went against the common Team Throwquid and then went against FNC that were saving strats. ON TOP OF THAT they got first seed because FPX couldnt go. The amount of fortunate happenings are uncanny and i feel like they wouldnt have even made it out of groups. TL are definitely the better team but they have a tendency to start throwing when they get cocky and they just first of all play like theyre throwing and second of all they play with weird ass comps and they start taking crazy risks

i really want to put x10 there...

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idkbro
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zeta, prx and x10 lmao they are the definition of a life run, watch them get exposed in stage 2 if europe can send their best teams and not g2 liquid 2 standins fnatic, any of those is top10 at best

#54
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jussmonster [#51]

fpx
optic
m3c
loud
top 5 is a throw up but I feel confident about this list

cant put a team on top which haven't proved anything on lan yet

#55
RAOSHAB
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idkbro [#53]

zeta, prx and x10 lmao they are the definition of a life run, watch them get exposed in stage 2 if europe can send their best teams and not g2 liquid 2 standins fnatic, any of those is top10 at best

thats why they are 4,5

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idkbro [#53]

zeta, prx and x10 lmao they are the definition of a life run, watch them get exposed in stage 2 if europe can send their best teams and not g2 liquid 2 standins fnatic, any of those is top10 at best

  1. gambit
  2. fpx
  3. optic (but most likely acend gonna be here with this insane new roster)
  4. loud
  5. fnatic (alfajer is a beast, great firepower upgrade, fearoth good too, just need to kick boaster and get an actual good 5th with fearoth as igl and easily best team itw)
#57
idkbro
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RAOSHAB [#55]

thats why they are 4,5

if we are ranking teams on ability, no fucking way prx, zeta or x10 is close to top10, they had 1 good tournament where europe was going through a war and send weaked fnatic, dead team and flukers2, if this was csgo and there was a tournament every 2 weeks with at least 24 teams these guys would rarely get out of groups

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idkbro [#56]
  1. gambit
  2. fpx
  3. optic (but most likely acend gonna be here with this insane new roster)
  4. loud
  5. fnatic (alfajer is a beast, great firepower upgrade, fearoth good too, just need to kick boaster and get an actual good 5th with fearoth as igl and easily best team itw)

fpx already on my list .....but havent actually proved on lan
and about fnatic we will see how they perform rn they aren't in top10

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idkbro [#57]

if we are ranking teams on ability, no fucking way prx, zeta or x10 is close to top10, they had 1 good tournament where europe was going through a war and send weaked fnatic, dead team and flukers2, if this was csgo and there was a tournament every 2 weeks with at least 24 teams these guys would rarely get out of groups

unacceptable excuses against team which actually performed

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idkbro
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RAOSHAB [#58]

fpx already on my list .....but havent actually proved on lan
and about fnatic we will see how they perform rn they aren't in top10

you are right about fpx not being proven on lan but they just have some insane players who have some experience on lan so I dont think they should be a question mark, ardiis has uk lan experience, ange1 has played majors, shao probably played some lans from the weird cs copy game he comes from, suygetsu and zyppan only unexperienced players, I dont think they will underperform at all in a studio enviorement, only players who underperform are those who have weird setups at home like trent who plays with music or sayaplayer with his weird desk

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RAOSHAB [#59]

unacceptable excuses against team which actually performed

ye, they performed, the best the will ever perform most likely, specially now that they have lost 2-3 weeks in iceland while gambit, acend, fpx, guild, etc.. who have way better players than them have been grinding, its the same as masters 2 last year, europe sends fnatic and liquid who were lucky then the actual good teams stay at home and keep grinding and improving while the rest loses time focusing on playing a tournament, then masters 3 big gap between top europe and the rest

#62
RAOSHAB
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idkbro [#61]

ye, they performed, the best the will ever perform most likely, specially now that they have lost 2-3 weeks in iceland while gambit, acend, fpx, guild, etc.. who have way better players than them have been grinding, its the same as masters 2 last year, europe sends fnatic and liquid who were lucky then the actual good teams stay at home and keep grinding and improving while the rest loses time focusing on playing a tournament, then masters 3 big gap between top europe and the rest

gambit, fpx are on my list so dont bother mentioning top EU teams again and again
and this list is for now when fnatic and acend are in a transforming phase so i dont see any problem with my list

#63
NothingLikeMe
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RAOSHAB [#35]

prx above of drx cause of they play with much more fun and strong mental

Who cares about ur fun????

#64
RAOSHAB
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NothingLikeMe [#63]

Who cares about ur fun????

obviously not my fun...what i meant was teams atmosphere they are more positive than drx

#65
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hellaeleganceyeah [#42]

domestic performance doesnt translate to international lan performance. just look at guard for example. 1st seed out of NA and went 0-2 out of iceland. its not a given that fpx will lose in lan, but we havent seen enough from them in lan to put them 2nd.

TGRD played literally the worst possible team for them in elims. Playing against a team as aggressive as PRX when you’re a bunch of nervous kids in your first lan is never gonna go well.

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swayway
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delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#21]

Keep coping

Atleast you know you’re delusional buddy

#67
NothingLikeMe
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RAOSHAB [#64]

obviously not my fun...what i meant was teams atmosphere they are more positive than drx

That doesn't not matter in ranking btw

#68
hellaeleganceyeah
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zardinez [#65]

TGRD played literally the worst possible team for them in elims. Playing against a team as aggressive as PRX when you’re a bunch of nervous kids in your first lan is never gonna go well.

why the fuck does it matter who you play against? its intl lan, you have to be prepared against everyone you could go against. they couldnt win against their home competition optic, then shit the bed against prx. stop with the copium lmao.

#69
virtz
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Won't agree with loud #3.
They haven't fought any APAC teams yet.

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no1haterbutloveyou2
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Avix [#2]

fair

is x10?, x10? or xerxia?

#71
thatpower
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RAOSHAB [#52]

i really want to put x10 there...

they are not top 5 lmao

#72
RAOSHAB
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thatpower [#71]

they are not top 5 lmao

maybe better than g2

#73
1mBor3d
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number_1_poach_fan [#28]

Did gambit ever beat sentinels?????

they never played sentinels? also who asked?

#74
bhc
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JustHunter [#45]

I dont think Optic are FPX level, this would be my Top 5 (ACTUAL top 5)

1-2) FPX > M3C (right now M3C is dealing with D3FFOs back problems and political issues and they just arent looking too hot so rn FPX higher)
3) FNC (I cant say for sure but their 2 new signings should allow them to have more firepower which is the thing they were lacking before so im quite confident that with a few games and a month of prac theyll be back to stage 1 form or even higher)
4) DRX (I think DRX have really good setplays but they arent adaptable enough which is a bad thing. But I think they shine so much in the set plays that it makes up for that. They just need to fix their mental and Id say they could be in contention to possibly win an international LAN)
5) Optic (yea i put the winners in 5, not because theyre bad or because I think DRX are better than them but because I feel like Optic looks really different from match to match. Sometimes youll see a top 3 team, sometimes youll see a top 20 team, sometimes you wont even see a top anything team. This isnt even from match to match sometimes its even map to map. So I cant confidently say that with their weak map pool and with their fluctuations that they would be in the no.4 place)

major cope detected

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