Smartest players

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zardinez

In terms of individual play, I'd say D4v41 and Leo. Their util is almost perfect, their gamesense is unreal, and they both contribute heavily to midrounding. Both goats.

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d4v41's map awareness is absolutely insane

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FNS maybe?

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no longer playing unfortunately

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doomvor

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where did it say they had to be currently active?

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well if they arent currently playing it's hard to judge how good they would be in the game rn against other players, different players are at different levels at different periods of time. like we know leo is good 'cause we are seeing him pop the fuck off constantly, same with davai, we dont have actual evidence of how good fns would be in a pro setting rn. if this is all time discussion then yeah fns is 100% up there considering he was an amazing igl (bar bilibili)

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Eh, they never said what kind of list this is, so makes sense.

I can understand what you're trying to say, but FNS has been a top IGL for multiple metas, and I'd still confidently say he'd be a top IGL in the game currently if he was still playing.

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GhostKing44

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trust me, i love fns, ive been a fan since the good old optic days, im just trying to be as objective as possible here

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doomvor

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of course, no worries.

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zardinez

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Best midrounder in valorant ofc but I feel like he makes more mistakes than the two listed in individual performances. Part of that is due to his aim, but his util isn't quite as impactful either I'd say.

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doomvor

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We're talking purely about their brain, not their impact.

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zardinez

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I made this post bro, this is why I did not put FNS in the starting two. Davai and leo have had more individual brilliance than FNS over the course of their careers, even though FNS is a great team leader. Same reason I didn't put Saadhak or Boostio here.

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doomvor

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okay sure, but that you titled the post "Smartest Players" leads me to think you're talking purely about their brain.

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zardinez

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Congrats on misinterpreting the idea behind this post then? Point is, now you get why not FNS

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the same FNS that got farmed by bili bili? the same FNS that took how many fucking rounds it took to counter hookah flood vs PRX? LMFAO

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doomvor

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you're talking about two games. You'd need a bigger sample size.

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NRG got farmed by bili bili twice lil bro

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doomvor

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fuck my bad sorry

but still, three games

#4

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sleeping on apoth

#12

zardinez

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of all the guys...

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Coures

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had to choose the number 1 inter in the league

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Gummybears

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Leo, MaKo, CHICHOO, Karon, Shao

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zardinez

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Idk who downvoted you, Mako and Karon are great shouts. Karon has been a little rusty recently tho. Mako is the eternal controller goat.

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T1 Rossy is underrated

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zardinez

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Agree, been a huge fan since I saw him in NA tier 2

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twisten😢

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TakoSaki

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RIP king
one of the most fun players to watch

#11

ShaoFeng

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John “quality tactics”

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Nutzzz

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Vanity