Franchise system is colapsing

We are seeing the colapse of the Brazilian orgs, nobody in the world makes that amount of money to be able to sustain a org in United States, even worse, Los Angeles.

To LOUD be able to compete in tier 1 they would have to pay each player 20K dolars, that's literally 100K BRL.

Imagine this for 5 players, that's more than a Million a year for a single team that ain't making that much, even If they win everything they ain't making that money back.

It's simply Impossible to sustain a system like this, Brazil should have their own franchise league in Brazil, we will forever be a exporting reagion for other teams like KRU, LEV, SEN to buy our players forever.

LOUD dropping Less bruh top 5 player gone cause poor org

Tá duro, dorme

no at least not for loud
loud has the money but just doesnt want to pay that much
its not like NA orgs can afford to pay their players that either... they operate in the red

"The CEO of LOUD stated that the NA orgs operate in the $negative$ and he does not intend to join them, so he pays salaries that the org can still make a "profit", that's why he can't secure players like aspas, Less, Sacy and paNcada since the NA orgs offers huge cash for them, but the org itself is quite rich."

someone else said this but is good example of why loud wont pay their players a lot
not bc they cant afford it, but bc they do not want to operate like NA orgs and in the red for their players

edit: also if this is true then why are non-BR LATAM orgs chilling (as far as i know)?
its literally just LOUD does not want to play the roster game like the other orgs do, and they are punished for it

Feels bad for the brazilian fans ngl

E também foi/está sendo um dos fatores da LOUD ter perdido o sacy/pancada/aspas. Se ainda tivesse liga BR provavel que ano passado e esse ano o pancada podia ter ficado na LOUD com o aspas, o sacy ja queria sair pra jogar em time gringo desde sempre mas o pancada sinto que foi por causa da franquia em si, grana e oportunidade.

Yeah it should never have been in Los Angeles or even California. And I know they have a studio there for lcs, but it was a dumb idea to even have that there in the first place. I feel like a good idea could be to do it in the riot Brazil studio that they use for cblol

I think it's more complicated than that honestly. Like, you mention teams like KRU and LEV, but they are also from South America and don't have the best currency exchange to dollars either. Though for KRU you can make the argument that they can be sustainable because of Sergio Aguero and Messi (which is fair as they are rich as fuck) that's not the case for LEV, their owner is not some crazy billionaire, but he manages LEV finances well. For example, despite their current roster, this year's budget for LEV in VCT is the same one as last... Yes, their current roster has the same budget as their previous roster with Tacolilla.

Didn't teams get a stipend of 600k-1million annually. Plus last year teams gets money from lock in bundle and champs bundle. It should be enough to cover 80% of the salary. This year they get money from team capsule and champs bundle

Don't forget they're also making money in LA

same disadvantage as every org in Americas VCT

AlexSMTxx [#8]

I think it's more complicated than that honestly. Like, you mention teams like KRU and LEV, but they are also from South America and don't have the best currency exchange to dollars either. Though for KRU you can make the argument that they can be sustainable because of Sergio Aguero and Messi (which is fair as they are rich as fuck) that's not the case for LEV, their owner is not some crazy billionaire, but he manages LEV finances well. For example, despite their current roster, this year's budget for LEV in VCT is the same one as last... Yes, their current roster has the same budget as their previous roster with Tacolilla.

W lev org ong

Also they paid millions for only play 15 matches in all year. Riot is stupid

We need a south america franchise league

spookmeister [#4]

no at least not for loud
loud has the money but just doesnt want to pay that much
its not like NA orgs can afford to pay their players that either... they operate in the red

"The CEO of LOUD stated that the NA orgs operate in the $negative$ and he does not intend to join them, so he pays salaries that the org can still make a "profit", that's why he can't secure players like aspas, Less, Sacy and paNcada since the NA orgs offers huge cash for them, but the org itself is quite rich."

someone else said this but is good example of why loud wont pay their players a lot
not bc they cant afford it, but bc they do not want to operate like NA orgs and in the red for their players

edit: also if this is true then why are non-BR LATAM orgs chilling (as far as i know)?
its literally just LOUD does not want to play the roster game like the other orgs do, and they are punished for it

Is because non BR orgs like LEV and KRU are runned by European football players that run money on Euros, Messi and Aguero must have at least 1 Billion dolars, they basically can shit money and whatever.

Valorant today is basically just like horses where to rich people, or Football teams for Saudi Arabia Sheiks

Doesn’t riot give them like a mil just being in the league

Mca [#13]

Is because non BR orgs like LEV and KRU are runned by European football players that run money on Euros, Messi and Aguero must have at least 1 Billion dolars, they basically can shit money and whatever.

Valorant today is basically just like horses where to rich people, or Football teams for Saudi Arabia Sheiks

Lev Ceo have a Lot of money but i don't think he is billionaire

Mca [#13]

Is because non BR orgs like LEV and KRU are runned by European football players that run money on Euros, Messi and Aguero must have at least 1 Billion dolars, they basically can shit money and whatever.

Valorant today is basically just like horses where to rich people, or Football teams for Saudi Arabia Sheiks

LEV is NOT ran by a Football player lmao, he has money but not to the level of Messi and Aguero. He is just smart with the spending.

OnyX_01 [#11]

W lev org ong

It's funny how a lot of people think LEV pulled out the bank and went bankrupt to get aspas and c0m, which is not the case at all. Their CEO has said plenty of times that even though he was down to making some sacrifices to get aspas, he was never going to put the org sustainability at risk over a signing. He is a smart guy.

Xplodd [#7]

Yeah it should never have been in Los Angeles or even California. And I know they have a studio there for lcs, but it was a dumb idea to even have that there in the first place. I feel like a good idea could be to do it in the riot Brazil studio that they use for cblol

I mean
just with languages and culture
I feel america is more internationally friendly than most of south america no?
Wouldnt it be harder for NA players to adjust to BR than South American players adjusting to NA
idk i could be wrong

CoCloudy [#18]

I mean
just with languages and culture
I feel america is more internationally friendly than most of south america no?
Wouldnt it be harder for NA players to adjust to BR than South American players adjusting to NA
idk i could be wrong

you're prob right

babysasuke [#10]

Don't forget they're also making money in LA

same disadvantage as every org in Americas VCT

downvoted for objective fact btw

AlexSMTxx [#17]

It's funny how a lot of people think LEV pulled out the bank and went bankrupt to get aspas and c0m, which is not the case at all. Their CEO has said plenty of times that even though he was down to making some sacrifices to get aspas, he was never going to put the org sustainability at risk over a signing. He is a smart guy.

They hit jackpot deal with aspas ngl

Feels weird that this is happening this year with the riot money and the bundle money coming in

CoCloudy [#18]

I mean
just with languages and culture
I feel america is more internationally friendly than most of south america no?
Wouldnt it be harder for NA players to adjust to BR than South American players adjusting to NA
idk i could be wrong

Yeah you're probably right. But my point about having it in LA being a dumb decision still stands. There are much cheaper places even in the US to have it.

CoCloudy [#18]

I mean
just with languages and culture
I feel america is more internationally friendly than most of south america no?
Wouldnt it be harder for NA players to adjust to BR than South American players adjusting to NA
idk i could be wrong

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Xplodd [#23]

Yeah you're probably right. But my point about having it in LA being a dumb decision still stands. There are much cheaper places even in the US to have it.

well its riots game and they its their own arena it would be pointless to rent an arena knowing that most US teams are in LA

cocoluna [#2]

LOUD dropping Less bruh top 5 player gone cause poor org

the op literally explain why it’s not the orgs fault, did you even read

Mca [#13]

Is because non BR orgs like LEV and KRU are runned by European football players that run money on Euros, Messi and Aguero must have at least 1 Billion dolars, they basically can shit money and whatever.

Valorant today is basically just like horses where to rich people, or Football teams for Saudi Arabia Sheiks

bro said messi is european 😭😭😭

ShxdowZ [#25]

well its riots game and they its their own arena it would be pointless to rent an arena knowing that most US teams are in LA

I agree with that, I'm just saying that the arena shouldn't have been there in the first place. Ofc it's too late, but it does kinda suck for orgs.

Xplodd [#28]

I agree with that, I'm just saying that the arena shouldn't have been there in the first place. Ofc it's too late, but it does kinda suck for orgs.

im not 100% sure but i believe they used it for LCS way before Valorant came into existence