Must be the worst among all regions and compared to every teams in other regions. Bruh why can't they show patience in number advantages? Only edg has decent discipline. Fpx improved as well but life still sometimes is really overaggressive

In terms of entertainment purely
Apac (mainly cause of prx)>cn>am>emea. Just my opinion. What's your opinion on this?

Also I think this year it's being proven how important igls are for the team. I feel like Igls are appreciated a lot more nowadays. Coaching last year and igls his year finally getting appreciated.

1. Valyn
2. Munchkin
3. Boo/Berlin?
   Just in terms of pure igling skills( calling and mid rounding)
   I think valyn and munchkin are top 5 in whole tournament including playoffs team as well.

I meant at the end of game after geng won and grouped together. Also why do you think Chinese audience would cheer in any way for geng after what their pr did. It's like asking Korean people to cheer for china if china claims dokdo island as part of Japan lol. I know you are big Korea fan or maybe Korean so you are so offended but t1 are getting cheered on at least.

Why would they tho? Especially after that Taiwan incident. They even cheered for t1 and some cheered for geng in msi too. Chinese fans hate geng org rn.

Players? They were still clapping for them after their win even against fpx. They just aren't cheering for geng alone and it's cause of the org not the players.

I still think they need some good coaching staffs maybe import. And then they will be contenders for tournaments in my opinion.

Proves that geng aren't just texture and friends like some were saying after pacific grand finals. Especially meteor and karon have been so good and munchkin igling has been so good as well.

Both good tbh. Fpx had chances to win as well. Great game from both sides.

Such great fun teams. Would love to see them make a deep run. Most fun teams for me to watch alongside edg and prx. It would have been so much more fun without all those political bullshit but still great teams to support as a fan.

Who do you think are qualifying for playoffs? For me top 4 would be geng, th, Lev and fpx. I think these 4 are qualifying for playoffs.

I think geng coaching is so underrated. Like the prep and anti strats has been so good from geng. I think they deserve a lot of credit.

I think that that was a little bit of choking tho. Fpx got too overconfident after winning pistol in 2nd half and honestly choked that anti eco round which lead to the snowballing.

Man don't get too riled up cause of the crowd thing. It's both sides fault geng org and the Chinese people. Also crowd clapped for geng players after their win against Lev. They only have problem against geng org so just enjoy the matches.

What a match? So fun to watch fpx. Don't care anything about that crowd and political shit, just give more matches like this man. So much fun.

It's just geng bro cause of that political reason so don't worry too much. At least t1 are getting cheered. Also they were clapping for the geng players after their win. So don't worry too much about crowd against geng.

Bro they got too overconfident after the pistol win in that anti eco round. Would have been fine if they won that round but got too overconfident.

G2 has huge fan base in china in league tho. Also there were so many t1 fans in msi as well that some Chinese nationalists were calling them traitor lol. Also t1 in g2 match had huge support mainly cause of xccurate tho in first vct Shanghai match.

There are too many Chinese teams tho to fit them in apac.

People actually are angry only cause of that tho which is kinda sad. But some were cheering for geng even after they won msi still. So there is still hope. Vct crowd has been quite worse against geng tho.

It's not cause of that. It's a political thing so better not mention it here. So geng has been hated since like Madrid.

Crowd only so far has been really bad for geng. People just overreacting.

Com's dad is so great. Making a vlr account and defending him so much. Tbh respect for him.

Those who have watched them know their igling and mid rounding is horrendous. So just people expected too much from them.

But he left loud cause he wanted to win championship from what I have heard so I don't think aspas is that happy rn if he wants to win a tourney.

Do you guys think aspas leaving loud has been better for him? It's still aspas decision and not disrespecting it but I genuinely think loud with aspas with some time would be so much better again this year too. I don't think aspas is winning championship with lev.

Big Aspas and friends today. Geng just so much better as a team.

As I said geng looks so much better as a team.

I don't understand the hype for Lev. Lev has never looked as good as geng peak form. Geng were never texture and friends except for that grand finals against prx. While Lev has always relied so heavily on aspas or some other player popping off hugely. Geng has always looked so much better as a team.

Japanese maybe but Korean crowds aren't any good either. Especially nowadays there is lot of beef among Korea and china. If you have watched league eSports you would know how Korean audience was when china won msi in busan Korea.

Cause there was no such claims like geng by any Chinese or Korean or japanese org. Just imagine some Chinese or Japanese org claimed dokdo island of Korea being part of Japan lol. Korean fans would have the same reaction as Chinese fans rn then.

Geng first brought politics bruh. It was stupidity from geng to bring politics in eSports. Geng pr fucked up huge and then they tried to back off from their claim and offended Korean and other east asian fans as well lol.

Bro I guess you don't know anything about east asian countries relationship. These all 3 countries Japan Korea and china hate each other.

It is political not some league rivalry and geng isn't even in dota 2 scene to have any rivalry with china. It is cause geng org I think claimed Taiwan as a country.

I mean just say some Chinese org claim Korea island dokdo as japanese. Wouldn't Korean be angry and not support that Chinese org if they come play in Korea when there already is some beef among east asian countries? It's the same situation rn with geng and Chinese people.

Oxy, tenz, marved at least ethnically

It was never texture and friends tho maybe in stage 1 especially grand finals. But karon and meteor has always been great and in contention for being the best player in geng.

Nah geng read and mid rounding is so good. One of the main reasons they could defeat prx or bring them to 5 games in bo5. Also the reason they got #2 in madrid. Also their map pool is really good. I think it's just prx and some mid apac teams otherwise strategically kr teams especially has always been on top

It wasn't completely against geng in msi tho. Geng still had lots of fans cheering on them in china.

Not valo t1 tho only league t1 and only in Korea too.

Looks like the apac audience improved this year from that drx vs prx audience last year.

All that rumors about geng being banned are not true. A whole country won't care about a eSports lol. Also only some people are offended by geng Taiwan incident. Everything is fine otherwise.

Depends heavily on worlds meta and players form. Also depends on how good meta is for blg or t1. I think blg and t1 can stop them. Even today blg had chances but choked in crucial moments so I still think geng golden road can be stopped but they are indeed too strong rn.

Guma the one owning everyone rn. But looks like g2 is feeling the pressure. G2 making so many mistakes and overcooking the drafting for which they were praised whole tournament.

Bruh who the heck designed that? It looks so trash. Even apac trophy is better. So far china trophy has looked best need to see how America's trophy is.

Meant to say current state where snowballing Is so much prevalent.

Mvp of apac not finals. I think overall split should be considered for mvp of whole split.

Mvp in my opinion especially considering how well he played in split when prx were losing. Also according to stats as well he has been #1 in playoffs.

Jingg or something for sure both in top 2 in playoffs as well.